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rajmen
09-15 01:28 PM
Got an InfoPass scheduled, and created a SR. This is taking way too long, and now April + May approvals are rolling in...
jazz
Can someone please post the steps to open an SR and get an Infopass? I may have a biometrics appointment coming up soon. Can they help with application status questions?
TIA
jazz
Can someone please post the steps to open an SR and get an Infopass? I may have a biometrics appointment coming up soon. Can they help with application status questions?
TIA
binadh
07-11 01:48 PM
I agree. Its the channel Osama uses anyways. Lou Dog (sp?? CNN smart Ass) will go bananas.
Any thoughts?
No disrespect to Al-Jazeera. But putting our story on that channel is not a good idea. People view anything on it with lot of suspicion, and Fox news interprets everybody Al-Jazeera sympathizes with as you know what.
Don't come after me for saying this, its not my opinion. But general opinion that I have observed from people who are not well informed(read majority of people). Lets focus on the main stream media in US, outside coverage is not that significant anyway.
Any thoughts?
No disrespect to Al-Jazeera. But putting our story on that channel is not a good idea. People view anything on it with lot of suspicion, and Fox news interprets everybody Al-Jazeera sympathizes with as you know what.
Don't come after me for saying this, its not my opinion. But general opinion that I have observed from people who are not well informed(read majority of people). Lets focus on the main stream media in US, outside coverage is not that significant anyway.
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InTheMoment
08-20 11:49 PM
...how is USCIS involved in this other than adjudicating cases and providing statistics to DoS as far the EB3 allocation issue is concerned?
Why are you guys taking about USCIS's interpretation of the law ??? What have they to do with it ? :eek:
**** The interpration is done by the Visa Office of DoS. **** Should get in touch with them.
Why are you guys taking about USCIS's interpretation of the law ??? What have they to do with it ? :eek:
**** The interpration is done by the Visa Office of DoS. **** Should get in touch with them.
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Leo07
09-23 04:15 PM
I guess we'll need to ADD to that number:
1. BEC stuck folks who could not file in July 07
2. PERM approvals starting August 07
to the 47,728. Plus multiply by 2.1( for dependents ). That'll give the total VISA numbers required for this category to make it Current.
If I have to guess-- (1) would be very less, may be 100-200 max
(2) around 5000 ( just a PUMA)
So, there are about 53000 EB2 I applications. and 2.1 * 53000 = 111300.
If we can create 111300, EB2 I visas then it'll be CURRENT. easy:)
1. BEC stuck folks who could not file in July 07
2. PERM approvals starting August 07
to the 47,728. Plus multiply by 2.1( for dependents ). That'll give the total VISA numbers required for this category to make it Current.
If I have to guess-- (1) would be very less, may be 100-200 max
(2) around 5000 ( just a PUMA)
So, there are about 53000 EB2 I applications. and 2.1 * 53000 = 111300.
If we can create 111300, EB2 I visas then it'll be CURRENT. easy:)
bobzibub
05-07 12:49 AM
Hi friends,
My husband and me work for the same company now. He applied in EB3 (India) and PD date with December 2006. I-140 approved and I-485 applied in July 2007. Got EAD and AP for both but still working on H1B (Not used EAD and AP).
From other company, in 2007, I applied for labor substitution and it is approved yesterday, which has PD Nov 2004 (EB3 - India). One of my friend working for this company and I got the reference last moment and I was not hoping for this approval.
Now I have to switch to this company as the company management are asking me to join the company. I read many threads in this forum and this thread too about multiple filings of I485s and withdraw one while applying other.
I read some people had no problems with multiple I-485s. But Murthy's advice is against this while others like Rajiv in favour of this.
Please advice me what could be the best in my case.
I have PG in engineering (CS) from India.
Thanks in advance
We may be talking about the same thing...I believe that ALIA as asked USCIS for clarificatin about spouses both filing (my wife and I both have.) Only I have no EADs or AP on my application. Just straight 485. My wife's 485 has EADs, APs, for both of us. Now both of our lawyers said it would be fine. It is not about what USCIS wants, however--it is about what they will lose court cases over. They can't possibly dissallow multiple applications after the fact, after we've paid for them. If USCIS was going to x-nay this, their window of opportunity is over. By not barring it, they've defacto allowed it.
Cheers,
-b
My husband and me work for the same company now. He applied in EB3 (India) and PD date with December 2006. I-140 approved and I-485 applied in July 2007. Got EAD and AP for both but still working on H1B (Not used EAD and AP).
From other company, in 2007, I applied for labor substitution and it is approved yesterday, which has PD Nov 2004 (EB3 - India). One of my friend working for this company and I got the reference last moment and I was not hoping for this approval.
Now I have to switch to this company as the company management are asking me to join the company. I read many threads in this forum and this thread too about multiple filings of I485s and withdraw one while applying other.
I read some people had no problems with multiple I-485s. But Murthy's advice is against this while others like Rajiv in favour of this.
Please advice me what could be the best in my case.
I have PG in engineering (CS) from India.
Thanks in advance
We may be talking about the same thing...I believe that ALIA as asked USCIS for clarificatin about spouses both filing (my wife and I both have.) Only I have no EADs or AP on my application. Just straight 485. My wife's 485 has EADs, APs, for both of us. Now both of our lawyers said it would be fine. It is not about what USCIS wants, however--it is about what they will lose court cases over. They can't possibly dissallow multiple applications after the fact, after we've paid for them. If USCIS was going to x-nay this, their window of opportunity is over. By not barring it, they've defacto allowed it.
Cheers,
-b
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brshankar
08-07 12:28 PM
All,
Lets do another flower campaign to wish get well soon to SunnySurya and Rooling_flood.
Get well soon Mamu...
If you look at the profile of the members who voted yes in this poll. They all have EB2 PD from June 2006 to 2007 except one or two. These guys will never understand the wait of a 2001 or 2002 filer. They dont know what it means to wait in limbo for years.
Can you guys who voted yes please share your qualifications and the kind of work you are doing?
Lets do another flower campaign to wish get well soon to SunnySurya and Rooling_flood.
Get well soon Mamu...
If you look at the profile of the members who voted yes in this poll. They all have EB2 PD from June 2006 to 2007 except one or two. These guys will never understand the wait of a 2001 or 2002 filer. They dont know what it means to wait in limbo for years.
Can you guys who voted yes please share your qualifications and the kind of work you are doing?
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malaGCPahije
08-07 02:07 PM
Check your PM.
Thanks for your support.
desi3933 and NKR... , Enjoy.
Thanks for your support.
desi3933 and NKR... , Enjoy.
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satish_hello
01-10 10:56 PM
We have to pond this letter to every oneLike who is in Primary.
Thisis debatable issue, since it is about legal Immigrant.If we 500 thousand of us can do it , we have to pound the fax, then only it can be heard.
Nancy Pelosi
Senate Majority Leader - Reid
John Kerry
John McCain
Barag Obama
Senator Clinton.
Hucabee
Sen. Edward
To All the important Senators.
Change we believe in , we can make change (steeled from Obama - kidding).
Please let us know how do we get those all the fax number.
Regards
satish
Thisis debatable issue, since it is about legal Immigrant.If we 500 thousand of us can do it , we have to pound the fax, then only it can be heard.
Nancy Pelosi
Senate Majority Leader - Reid
John Kerry
John McCain
Barag Obama
Senator Clinton.
Hucabee
Sen. Edward
To All the important Senators.
Change we believe in , we can make change (steeled from Obama - kidding).
Please let us know how do we get those all the fax number.
Regards
satish
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insbaby
11-12 12:44 PM
I got the RFE at last. I invoked AC21. The RFE for me is asking for 2 evidences
01. Why in Form I-693 medical examiner submitted x-ray but no skin test (we did it because we had the TB vaccination in childhood and skin test would come positive and we had to take x-ray anyway) ---Not an Issue, we can answer that
02. Submit current dated EVL for your new employer. No issue. we can answer that
For my wife also asking for 2 evidences:
01. About the same medical issue.
02. Provide her non-immigrant status between Feb 2003 to Jan 2004.
I don't know what do. Looks like we are doomed. My wife came here with H4 in 2000, was provided I-94 from the airport for 3 years (till Jan 2003), we didn't know then that we have to file a I-539 extension for H4 extension (even couple of my friends had the same idea). We knew that as long as I am on H1, she would maintain H4. I came to know in Jan 2004 and then we applied for I-539. I know this is stupid but that what happened. Anybody has any experience please reply..please please. We are really sleepless this time.
You can not change what had happened. They already found it.
And you did not do that in purpose and the dependant did not take any advantage during that period. So get a good lawyer and give proper explanation. Being out of status does not disqualify the application immediately. It depends on the explanation and the reviewer. There may be exceptions.
Good luck.
01. Why in Form I-693 medical examiner submitted x-ray but no skin test (we did it because we had the TB vaccination in childhood and skin test would come positive and we had to take x-ray anyway) ---Not an Issue, we can answer that
02. Submit current dated EVL for your new employer. No issue. we can answer that
For my wife also asking for 2 evidences:
01. About the same medical issue.
02. Provide her non-immigrant status between Feb 2003 to Jan 2004.
I don't know what do. Looks like we are doomed. My wife came here with H4 in 2000, was provided I-94 from the airport for 3 years (till Jan 2003), we didn't know then that we have to file a I-539 extension for H4 extension (even couple of my friends had the same idea). We knew that as long as I am on H1, she would maintain H4. I came to know in Jan 2004 and then we applied for I-539. I know this is stupid but that what happened. Anybody has any experience please reply..please please. We are really sleepless this time.
You can not change what had happened. They already found it.
And you did not do that in purpose and the dependant did not take any advantage during that period. So get a good lawyer and give proper explanation. Being out of status does not disqualify the application immediately. It depends on the explanation and the reviewer. There may be exceptions.
Good luck.
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Cheran
04-24 04:04 PM
This guy doesn't have a clue. He is deviating so much from the core US policy, I don't know where it might end. I wonder whether we are better off with the last one????
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ssa
08-21 12:56 PM
Yes, the same law can be interpreted like this:
EB1-ROW unused visa will go to EB2-ROW
EB2-ROW unused visa will go to EB3-ROW
Same for each country.
But its not happening. What actually is happening that they are giving unused visa from EB1-ROW to EB2-ROW to EB2-I/C. WHY?
So EB3-ROW is retrogressed bcoz it doesn't get any spillover and hence it affect EB3-I.
So where is the correct interpretation? Does any body know?
Don't take me wrong here. I don't favor EB3-ROW or any particular category. I am EB3-I with PD Nov 2002.
I remember reading statement from USCIS head (if I remember correct on Ron Gotcher's forum as well as in some immigration newsletter) that they consulted congress and other legal resources on how to interpret the unused visa overflow provisions and based upon the consultation decided to change overflow allocation from "vertical" to "horizontal".
So yes, they did change the way they used to handle the overflow but it does not seem like it was done on their own whims and fancies. It does not matter how we interpret the sections of the law among ourselves, if they got the current interpretation after consulting with congress etc. IMHO it will be very hard to make them change it back to the old way. As a government agency they can not do frequent flip-flops on policy matters - now efficiency is whole another story ;)
If I can find the links to the articles I mentioned above I'll post them on this thread.
EB1-ROW unused visa will go to EB2-ROW
EB2-ROW unused visa will go to EB3-ROW
Same for each country.
But its not happening. What actually is happening that they are giving unused visa from EB1-ROW to EB2-ROW to EB2-I/C. WHY?
So EB3-ROW is retrogressed bcoz it doesn't get any spillover and hence it affect EB3-I.
So where is the correct interpretation? Does any body know?
Don't take me wrong here. I don't favor EB3-ROW or any particular category. I am EB3-I with PD Nov 2002.
I remember reading statement from USCIS head (if I remember correct on Ron Gotcher's forum as well as in some immigration newsletter) that they consulted congress and other legal resources on how to interpret the unused visa overflow provisions and based upon the consultation decided to change overflow allocation from "vertical" to "horizontal".
So yes, they did change the way they used to handle the overflow but it does not seem like it was done on their own whims and fancies. It does not matter how we interpret the sections of the law among ourselves, if they got the current interpretation after consulting with congress etc. IMHO it will be very hard to make them change it back to the old way. As a government agency they can not do frequent flip-flops on policy matters - now efficiency is whole another story ;)
If I can find the links to the articles I mentioned above I'll post them on this thread.
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laborchic
09-24 05:36 PM
There are 37275 applications with PD of 2004 or earlier. Can we make an assumption that about 20 to 30% of these would try to port once economy turns around in the next 18 to 24 months? How will this impact wait time for a EB2 with PD Jan 2006?
I am really disappointed in the info provided via the foia effort. It told me that there are only 4118 applications before me. 4118 vs 28074. Worst kind of sick joke.
Based on the PD on my 140 Approval Notice (May-2004) there are 28074 applications before me. This is the correct date.
Based on the PD on my 485 Interview Notice (Aug-2007) there are 53192 applications before me.
I do not know how my application was counted when the data was put together.
Huh.... How did you got this information of how many applications are in queue before you??? Am I missing something here...:confused:
I am really disappointed in the info provided via the foia effort. It told me that there are only 4118 applications before me. 4118 vs 28074. Worst kind of sick joke.
Based on the PD on my 140 Approval Notice (May-2004) there are 28074 applications before me. This is the correct date.
Based on the PD on my 485 Interview Notice (Aug-2007) there are 53192 applications before me.
I do not know how my application was counted when the data was put together.
Huh.... How did you got this information of how many applications are in queue before you??? Am I missing something here...:confused:
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01-15 07:24 AM
All,
Pls have one or two brief explanations of our plight and solution ideas on chage.gov to be voted by all in the community.
i have received this email from change.gov, and believe that the new administration can bring change for us:
{We wanted to tell you about a new feature on Change.gov which lets you bring your ideas directly to the President.
It's called the Citizen's Briefing Book, and it's an online forum where you can share your ideas, and rate or offer comments on the ideas of others.
The best-rated ones will rise to the top, and after the Inauguration, we'll print them out and gather them into a binder like the ones the President receives every day from experts and advisors. If you participate, your idea could be included in the Citizen's Briefing Book to be delivered to President Obama. }
Pls have one or two brief explanations of our plight and solution ideas on chage.gov to be voted by all in the community.
i have received this email from change.gov, and believe that the new administration can bring change for us:
{We wanted to tell you about a new feature on Change.gov which lets you bring your ideas directly to the President.
It's called the Citizen's Briefing Book, and it's an online forum where you can share your ideas, and rate or offer comments on the ideas of others.
The best-rated ones will rise to the top, and after the Inauguration, we'll print them out and gather them into a binder like the ones the President receives every day from experts and advisors. If you participate, your idea could be included in the Citizen's Briefing Book to be delivered to President Obama. }
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ramaonline
06-29 08:20 PM
According to the newsflash on murthy and other sites, the AILF is working with several organizations to prevent 485 applications from getting rejected next month. Can IV core work with them to make the case stronger?
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07-10 10:31 PM
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05-22 06:53 PM
thanks, I am going to look into that also.
I am still trying to talk the old employer. Is it such a big deal that they cant even write a letter of future employment for me? i told them that they are not obligated to hire me but they are scared that they are trying to show that they are in losses and that by filing for a GC and promising a future employment they will not be able to show that they are suffering losses.
Why is it so difficult and complicated?
I am losing hope in it.
There is no harm in trying the new application in parallel. Assuming your employer is paying for it/you can afford the extra fees. Time is critical as CIR might mess things up if you delay too much.
I am still trying to talk the old employer. Is it such a big deal that they cant even write a letter of future employment for me? i told them that they are not obligated to hire me but they are scared that they are trying to show that they are in losses and that by filing for a GC and promising a future employment they will not be able to show that they are suffering losses.
Why is it so difficult and complicated?
I am losing hope in it.
There is no harm in trying the new application in parallel. Assuming your employer is paying for it/you can afford the extra fees. Time is critical as CIR might mess things up if you delay too much.
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heywhat
11-26 01:00 PM
kuhelica2000/sledge_hammer,
There is no similarity between example you are giving and what Punjabi is in ..
Punjabi is not returning it to actual seller but it is returning it to Bank which is not a seller of that house .
morally i do not think this is right. Financially also I think people should avoid it if they are planning to stay in USA, because they might end up paying more in long run.
Punjabi,
This is directly not going to impact your I485, indirectly it might if you get pink slip in your new job and then you try to get another job but they reject it because of foreclosure while doing background check. And if you remain unemployed for long time and USCIS rejecting I485 application.
Also you might end up paying more in future instead of saving anything out of this entire foreclosure ..
I got your point and I difffer with that. Your point is-only defective items should be returned and I am saying it doesn't need to be defective. As long as you are not completely satisfied you should be able to return it and price is an element in customer satisfaction. That's why stores do price match so you don't need to return their merchandise. Stores that don't do price match deserve their goods to be returned.
Also, I didn't put words in your mouth. "Returning used merchandise is a fraud" - these words came out of your own mouth. Check your own post.
There is no similarity between example you are giving and what Punjabi is in ..
Punjabi is not returning it to actual seller but it is returning it to Bank which is not a seller of that house .
morally i do not think this is right. Financially also I think people should avoid it if they are planning to stay in USA, because they might end up paying more in long run.
Punjabi,
This is directly not going to impact your I485, indirectly it might if you get pink slip in your new job and then you try to get another job but they reject it because of foreclosure while doing background check. And if you remain unemployed for long time and USCIS rejecting I485 application.
Also you might end up paying more in future instead of saving anything out of this entire foreclosure ..
I got your point and I difffer with that. Your point is-only defective items should be returned and I am saying it doesn't need to be defective. As long as you are not completely satisfied you should be able to return it and price is an element in customer satisfaction. That's why stores do price match so you don't need to return their merchandise. Stores that don't do price match deserve their goods to be returned.
Also, I didn't put words in your mouth. "Returning used merchandise is a fraud" - these words came out of your own mouth. Check your own post.
dontcareanymore
01-09 04:43 PM
I am surprised to see this thread active this long. Earlier I have with help of Saralayar and other members have bring this point to attention. But at that time no one was supporting Idea.
I see increasing support for the Idea as GC journey become longer and longer.
Earlier I have pointed following points that I want to bring to remind if we want to get real support for this idea of early CITIZENSHIP AFTER GREEN CARD
(1) I-140 and I-485 must be approved.
(@) Time should be considered only after getting GC
(3) For getting closer for political support our proposal should be close to Existing laws for FAMILY BASED and MARRIAGE BASED CITIZENSHIPS
So we should argur that if YOU HAVE MASTER AND ABOVE IN STEM FILEDS YOu can get CITIZEN SHIP 5 yrs from date of Approval of I-140 ( which make it closer to fmaily based) and THREE YEARS from Date of Approval of I-485 (closer to marriage based citizens). You can get earlier of two . But when you get Citizenship your I-485 must be approved for ATLEAST 1 year.
The above requirements can get closer to Marriage and family based and also help 90% of IV members.
Adding the clause for the EDUCATIONAL THING might be able to get more political support also
Thanks
Most of the delay (after the labor) is in I485. Some people wait more than others and any timer that starts AFTER approval of I485 is not useful to those who already wait longer term on I485. Moreover it is I485 process that is most screwed up for the lack of better word. People with PD 2006 got the GC last year while people from 2002 are waiting in the SAME category , from the same country.
REQUIREMENT of masters degree may be a convincing factor in your opinion , but that excludes certain members of the group.
The 485 approval is just an adjustment of status. Technically approval of I140 is when you are approved to be a resident (Assuming no criminal record etc).
I see increasing support for the Idea as GC journey become longer and longer.
Earlier I have pointed following points that I want to bring to remind if we want to get real support for this idea of early CITIZENSHIP AFTER GREEN CARD
(1) I-140 and I-485 must be approved.
(@) Time should be considered only after getting GC
(3) For getting closer for political support our proposal should be close to Existing laws for FAMILY BASED and MARRIAGE BASED CITIZENSHIPS
So we should argur that if YOU HAVE MASTER AND ABOVE IN STEM FILEDS YOu can get CITIZEN SHIP 5 yrs from date of Approval of I-140 ( which make it closer to fmaily based) and THREE YEARS from Date of Approval of I-485 (closer to marriage based citizens). You can get earlier of two . But when you get Citizenship your I-485 must be approved for ATLEAST 1 year.
The above requirements can get closer to Marriage and family based and also help 90% of IV members.
Adding the clause for the EDUCATIONAL THING might be able to get more political support also
Thanks
Most of the delay (after the labor) is in I485. Some people wait more than others and any timer that starts AFTER approval of I485 is not useful to those who already wait longer term on I485. Moreover it is I485 process that is most screwed up for the lack of better word. People with PD 2006 got the GC last year while people from 2002 are waiting in the SAME category , from the same country.
REQUIREMENT of masters degree may be a convincing factor in your opinion , but that excludes certain members of the group.
The 485 approval is just an adjustment of status. Technically approval of I140 is when you are approved to be a resident (Assuming no criminal record etc).
alterego
01-25 01:36 AM
There are a few praises about Jet Airways in previous posts.
Let me set the record straight. They have miles to go before they start claiming themselves as "world class" international airline.
I was on vacation past 2.5 weeks to India and here is my experience.
Regarding Jet Airways poor customer service:
On return, my Jet Airways flight from Rajkot (Gujarat) to Mumbai was delayed by 2 hours. Its only a 55 minute flight from Rajkot to Mumbai. Because of this, my connection of Delta airlines from Mumbai to New York was missed. Delta gave me a seat on plane the next day. Same flight - but a day after. So now, I was stuck in Mumbai, with huge luggage for 24 hours. I asked Delta for Hotel accomodation. They said, its not their fault and its Jet Airways fault and I should ask them for Hotel.
I went to Jet Airways customer service in Mumbai airport. They said that they cant find a single room in Mumbai due to some exhibition/conference going on at the time. A major international airline, shooting for stars, cant find a Hotel room in a city as big as Mumbai. Frustrated, I went to a government agency office (IATA I think) and they said that they dont have anything nearby, but can arrange something 30 kilometers away, and it was a sub-standard hotel and room. I paid out of my own pocket and stayed there a night. It was Rs 2000 (about $50) for this hotel plus taxi.
The next day, before boarding Delta flight, I went to Jet Airways office again and told them that I found a hotel room on my own and see if they can re-imburse me for the hotel expenses. If they had paid themselves in Hyatt or Grand Meridian outside airport, it would have been more anyways. The manager of Jet Airways said that they cannot do it and I should scan the reciepts and my boarding pass and email customersupport at jetairways.
An hour before this happened, the office didnt even have anyone in charge in office (at about 7:00 PM). The agent said, the manager isnt here. I asked, "who's in charge", and she said "No one is in charge right now, you have to come back at 8:00 when manager comes in".
What I am saying is, Jet Airways has miles to go before it can take pride. Just starting flights to Newark, Chicago doesnt make it a great airline. Neither does good food. Treat customers well, and atleast do a better job than government offices when it comes to locating hotel rooms for stranded passengers who are stranded due to their fault.
Mumbai Airport security harrassment :
My flight was just past midnight and I checked out of hotel at noon. (I had to). With 12 hours and nothing to do, I headed to Mumbai airport. At the airport, they dont let you inside the building unless you are a passenger. The security guard at the door said that I need to come back at 9:00 PM and I cant go into the airport right now as my flight is at night. I told him that I am not coming to airport to enjoy the lounge and I am stranded due to missed airline connection. He didnt listen. I was sitting outside the building until about 8:00 PM with all luggage.
Now I understand that security is important, but what's the point in stopping someone and letting them inside only 4 hours prior. Because if there is a nefarious person planning something bad, what can he/she do in 10 hours that he/she cant do in 4 hours. How does it enhance security by limiting the presence of passengers inside airport? Well, you cant argue with knuckleheads.
Inside airport, I ran into a German lady and a guy from Netherlands and both of them were in the airport since the afternoon. They said they argued and they were let in. Basically, the Indian security forces at the airport wont argue with Europeans and will let them inside the airport but will go extra lengths to harrass people that they are comfortable harrassing - their own people.
So we can ignore London airport. Fine. Are we also going to ignore Mumbai airport now?
The best way to avoid harrassment is to stand up and fight it. Because avoiding this airport and that airline is not going to cut it.
Interesting to read all these experiences.
Let me share mine in Mumbai, although it was a couple of years ago.
I was born in India but have a foreign passport. When you are leaving the country they have an officer interview you. I am not sure why, but it is quite unusual, kind of like an exit interview I guess. I have not seen that anywhere else.
Anyway the guy asked all sorts of detailed questions, and then finally asked me how much Rupees cash I have with me. I told him I'm not exactly sure, but about 1000Rs(about 20 dollars at that time). He told me the limit was 800Rs for foreigners leaving India and told me it was illegal to take Indian Rupees out of the country and asked me to take out my wallet and count it, when I counted it, it turned out I had 1400 Rs in my wallet. Then he became quite irate and condescending and asked me what I do for a living, I told him I am a doctor, then he went on insulting me, asking whether I would say that a patients temperature was 104 if it was 101! I told him that is not relevant here. He got angrier and told me he will have to confiscate that money. I told him 1400 Rs is not that much money and I could spend it in the departure lounge before I left. He was livid. He asked me to hand over the Indian currency. I was not quite sure what to do, but I sure as hell knew I did not want this scumbag to have that money. So I turned around and gave the balance above 800Rs to another passenger in line next to me and said take it as a gift from a stranger. That pushed him over the edge, he started yelling in Hindi. I told him I do not speak Hindi, that seemed to upset him even more. By this time other passengers were aware of what was going on as well and were objecting as well. He was fuming and walked away from his desk yelling and shouting in Hindi and his supervisor came to take over. He asked what the issue was and I explained it to him. He waved me by and moved on to the next passenger.
Later that passenger, came up to me in the departure lounge and returned the money I gave her. We started chatting, and I asked her to join me in the restaurant as our flight was 3 hrs away so we went to the restaurant and spent it all in the departure lounge on a meal and a couple of drinks and the tip.
They need to improve things and get rid of these morons in those airports. Perhaps they need to pay them realistic salaries and then make them more accountable. They don't realize it and perhaps care even less, but they represent India's image and brand every day in the eyes of visitors and travellers alike.
Let me set the record straight. They have miles to go before they start claiming themselves as "world class" international airline.
I was on vacation past 2.5 weeks to India and here is my experience.
Regarding Jet Airways poor customer service:
On return, my Jet Airways flight from Rajkot (Gujarat) to Mumbai was delayed by 2 hours. Its only a 55 minute flight from Rajkot to Mumbai. Because of this, my connection of Delta airlines from Mumbai to New York was missed. Delta gave me a seat on plane the next day. Same flight - but a day after. So now, I was stuck in Mumbai, with huge luggage for 24 hours. I asked Delta for Hotel accomodation. They said, its not their fault and its Jet Airways fault and I should ask them for Hotel.
I went to Jet Airways customer service in Mumbai airport. They said that they cant find a single room in Mumbai due to some exhibition/conference going on at the time. A major international airline, shooting for stars, cant find a Hotel room in a city as big as Mumbai. Frustrated, I went to a government agency office (IATA I think) and they said that they dont have anything nearby, but can arrange something 30 kilometers away, and it was a sub-standard hotel and room. I paid out of my own pocket and stayed there a night. It was Rs 2000 (about $50) for this hotel plus taxi.
The next day, before boarding Delta flight, I went to Jet Airways office again and told them that I found a hotel room on my own and see if they can re-imburse me for the hotel expenses. If they had paid themselves in Hyatt or Grand Meridian outside airport, it would have been more anyways. The manager of Jet Airways said that they cannot do it and I should scan the reciepts and my boarding pass and email customersupport at jetairways.
An hour before this happened, the office didnt even have anyone in charge in office (at about 7:00 PM). The agent said, the manager isnt here. I asked, "who's in charge", and she said "No one is in charge right now, you have to come back at 8:00 when manager comes in".
What I am saying is, Jet Airways has miles to go before it can take pride. Just starting flights to Newark, Chicago doesnt make it a great airline. Neither does good food. Treat customers well, and atleast do a better job than government offices when it comes to locating hotel rooms for stranded passengers who are stranded due to their fault.
Mumbai Airport security harrassment :
My flight was just past midnight and I checked out of hotel at noon. (I had to). With 12 hours and nothing to do, I headed to Mumbai airport. At the airport, they dont let you inside the building unless you are a passenger. The security guard at the door said that I need to come back at 9:00 PM and I cant go into the airport right now as my flight is at night. I told him that I am not coming to airport to enjoy the lounge and I am stranded due to missed airline connection. He didnt listen. I was sitting outside the building until about 8:00 PM with all luggage.
Now I understand that security is important, but what's the point in stopping someone and letting them inside only 4 hours prior. Because if there is a nefarious person planning something bad, what can he/she do in 10 hours that he/she cant do in 4 hours. How does it enhance security by limiting the presence of passengers inside airport? Well, you cant argue with knuckleheads.
Inside airport, I ran into a German lady and a guy from Netherlands and both of them were in the airport since the afternoon. They said they argued and they were let in. Basically, the Indian security forces at the airport wont argue with Europeans and will let them inside the airport but will go extra lengths to harrass people that they are comfortable harrassing - their own people.
So we can ignore London airport. Fine. Are we also going to ignore Mumbai airport now?
The best way to avoid harrassment is to stand up and fight it. Because avoiding this airport and that airline is not going to cut it.
Interesting to read all these experiences.
Let me share mine in Mumbai, although it was a couple of years ago.
I was born in India but have a foreign passport. When you are leaving the country they have an officer interview you. I am not sure why, but it is quite unusual, kind of like an exit interview I guess. I have not seen that anywhere else.
Anyway the guy asked all sorts of detailed questions, and then finally asked me how much Rupees cash I have with me. I told him I'm not exactly sure, but about 1000Rs(about 20 dollars at that time). He told me the limit was 800Rs for foreigners leaving India and told me it was illegal to take Indian Rupees out of the country and asked me to take out my wallet and count it, when I counted it, it turned out I had 1400 Rs in my wallet. Then he became quite irate and condescending and asked me what I do for a living, I told him I am a doctor, then he went on insulting me, asking whether I would say that a patients temperature was 104 if it was 101! I told him that is not relevant here. He got angrier and told me he will have to confiscate that money. I told him 1400 Rs is not that much money and I could spend it in the departure lounge before I left. He was livid. He asked me to hand over the Indian currency. I was not quite sure what to do, but I sure as hell knew I did not want this scumbag to have that money. So I turned around and gave the balance above 800Rs to another passenger in line next to me and said take it as a gift from a stranger. That pushed him over the edge, he started yelling in Hindi. I told him I do not speak Hindi, that seemed to upset him even more. By this time other passengers were aware of what was going on as well and were objecting as well. He was fuming and walked away from his desk yelling and shouting in Hindi and his supervisor came to take over. He asked what the issue was and I explained it to him. He waved me by and moved on to the next passenger.
Later that passenger, came up to me in the departure lounge and returned the money I gave her. We started chatting, and I asked her to join me in the restaurant as our flight was 3 hrs away so we went to the restaurant and spent it all in the departure lounge on a meal and a couple of drinks and the tip.
They need to improve things and get rid of these morons in those airports. Perhaps they need to pay them realistic salaries and then make them more accountable. They don't realize it and perhaps care even less, but they represent India's image and brand every day in the eyes of visitors and travellers alike.
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